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the shino problem [May. 8th, 2010|09:20 pm]
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hey guys! so i just watched episode 11 a few minutes ago. it was a long while since i last watched it, but that episode always gives me food for thought, so i thought it might be a good time to bring up some discussion in this comm (things have been kinda quiet around here, haven't they?).

clearly, shino marked a turning point in the series when it came to jin/fuu. i know for me, it was the first episode that really made me go "oh, hey, maybe..." but at the same time, the idea of jin actually falling in love with some other woman on screen seems like such a huge deal that people even use it as an argument against jin/fuu a lot of the time.

so, what do you guys think: was jin really in love with shino? why do you think she made such an impact in his life? do you think, three years after the series ended, he would've gone back for her? how are any feelings he may have had for fuu, different than the ones he had for shino?

as for fuu, anyone with eyes could see that she was jealous. but was she jealous out of simple infatuation, or were her feelings for jin deeper at that point? why do you think her reaction was so emotional?

discuss freely, but please no bashing! shino was nothing if not perfectly nice, so let's keep the discussion clean, hmm?

also, as an aside, i would like to say: the world really needs more jin/fuu fanfiction. did you know that in ff.net there are about five pages of fics that have mugen and fuu listed as main characters? five pages. that's even more than for jin and mugen, which i didn't think was possible. jin and fuu barely have one page. and that's just for the fics that actually have main characters marked at all! i can't vouch for the quality of those five pages of fics, but it seems highly unfair that jin and fuu get so little attention. we've got to remedy that, you guys! *nudgenudge* x3

[User Picture]From: girls_are_weird
2010-05-23 02:40 am (UTC)
i ought to reply to my own questions. ;)

personally, i think jin was actually in love with shino. i know, i know, it's probably not right of me to admit it, considering i'm a die-hard jin/fuu shipper, but i just... don't see jin as the "simple infatuation" kinda guy. he's too complex for that. i normally don't believe in true love after only knowing a person for a day, but those were different times, so who knows. and sometimes when people meet under extreme circumstances and go through severe hardships together, a strong bond can develop. and jin, the man is so chivalrous, so set on the samurai way of life and all its rules and all its ideals, that it's almost like he's the japanese equivalent to a knight. he fell in love with his gentle lady; it's almost expected.

i don't know if it was the kind of love that would be forever, though. when you're young (and there i go again, sounding like i'm 80 instead of in my 20's...) you feel things so strongly-- they probably could've gone on and lead a quiet, peaceful life, because they're both even-tempered people, but i don't know... i think jin, as a samurai, as a person, needs to be completely devoted to something. to a quest, to a philosophy, to a cause, to someone. it's probably not the healthiest thing, but that's the way he operates. and i don't know if shino would be comfortable with that; she didn't seem to be, during episode 11.

it's probably one of those romances a person, later on in life, looks back to with fondness and a "i wonder if he/she's found happiness". you never really stop loving these people, but you've each made your own paths and have made peace with it. at least, that's the way i saw it.

with fuu, however, they got to know each other quite well over the rest of the episodes, and while fuu is a very independent girl, i think she has learned just how much to let herself depend on the people who care about her. by the end, she truly needed them not only as bodyguards, but as emotional companions-- it was probably part of the reason why it was so difficult to part with them before ikitsuki, because she knew, even if she didn't want them to come with her for their own safety, she still needed to have them with her; they were her support.

as for fuu herself, i'm not sure if i can pinpoint when jin went from "really good swordsman whom i tricked into being my bodyguard" to someone she started having feelings for; maybe somewhere around episode seven or eight? i think it was most likely lingering in her subconscious, actually. she had inadvertently started to become used to relying on his presence (unlike with mugen, whose behavior was a constant reminder that he could take off at any point-- oh, she hoped he'd always come back, but she couldn't really be sure, as episode nine showed), and the sudden idea that maybe jin could leave completely shook her world, and being so expressive the feelings caught up to her and bubbled out.

there's no way those feelings were superficial, given her reaction in the episode. the girl is nothing if not completely sincere! so she may not have known she had feelings for jin before shino, but she certainly knew afterwards that yes, something had shifted in their dynamics. heck, pretty sure even mugen knew that as well...

Edited at 2010-05-23 02:41 am (UTC)
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