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the shino problem [May. 8th, 2010|09:20 pm]
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hey guys! so i just watched episode 11 a few minutes ago. it was a long while since i last watched it, but that episode always gives me food for thought, so i thought it might be a good time to bring up some discussion in this comm (things have been kinda quiet around here, haven't they?).

clearly, shino marked a turning point in the series when it came to jin/fuu. i know for me, it was the first episode that really made me go "oh, hey, maybe..." but at the same time, the idea of jin actually falling in love with some other woman on screen seems like such a huge deal that people even use it as an argument against jin/fuu a lot of the time.

so, what do you guys think: was jin really in love with shino? why do you think she made such an impact in his life? do you think, three years after the series ended, he would've gone back for her? how are any feelings he may have had for fuu, different than the ones he had for shino?

as for fuu, anyone with eyes could see that she was jealous. but was she jealous out of simple infatuation, or were her feelings for jin deeper at that point? why do you think her reaction was so emotional?

discuss freely, but please no bashing! shino was nothing if not perfectly nice, so let's keep the discussion clean, hmm?




also, as an aside, i would like to say: the world really needs more jin/fuu fanfiction. did you know that in ff.net there are about five pages of fics that have mugen and fuu listed as main characters? five pages. that's even more than for jin and mugen, which i didn't think was possible. jin and fuu barely have one page. and that's just for the fics that actually have main characters marked at all! i can't vouch for the quality of those five pages of fics, but it seems highly unfair that jin and fuu get so little attention. we've got to remedy that, you guys! *nudgenudge* x3
 
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[User Picture]From: girls_are_weird
2010-05-23 01:52 am (UTC)

Re: your question

i agree with a lot of what you said. particularly that part where you mention the shino episode was a turning point for him in how he saw fuu-- he did seem to actually start seeing her more as a person and less of a job or duty.

personally, i always thought the way she reacted to his involvement with shino let him know that she actually cared about him personally, and not just as a bodyguard. he may have dismissed the jealousy angle as her usual impetuousness, but it let him know she at least cared about him in some way-- any random person could be her bodyguard on the way to edo, but she wanted to travel with him (and mugen, but whatever). knowing she cared means he can allow himself to get more personally involved with her, unlike the rest of the odd jobs he must've had since he left the dojo. it's from that point on that he actually starts talking to her and interacting with her for real, instead of just tuning her out like he did previously.

and i should say that i really, really love your fic. x3 i haven't reviewed because obviously i'm a horrible, horrible person, lol ^^;;; but i think it's fantastic-- and the jin/fuu interaction is so sweet. =3 it's an awesome fic. any chance for an update anytime soon? *hinthint nudgenudge* ;)
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[User Picture]From: samcham7
2010-05-23 04:10 am (UTC)

Re: your question

Hi girls_are_weird,

It agree with what you say, and thanks so much for saying those kind things about my fic! I am working on it as much as I can given work etc, and hopefully I will be able to put up something once the ffnet problems regarding stats recording are resolved.

Yes, I agree with what you say. Jin has a real capacity as far as falling deeply in love is concerned, and once he does he would be very devoted to that person. To me a very telling point in relation to his feelings about Shino occurs when he sees her on that bridge; he knows that she is contemplating suicide. I think he knows this because he has a very sensitive nature and his experience of having to kill his own teacher (plus maybe some other life experiences)had once put him in a similar frame of mind. Then he gets to know her and like her and is shocked to learn that she is to work in a brothel. Had circumstances been different he may have ended up with her and been happy.

But in my opinion he would have missed out on having a better relationship with Fuu. Shino, to me was a little strange about certain things. She made a statement to the effect that she would rather wait in the brothel for Jin than three years at the Enkiri dera! That was not only odd, but a little selfish; she seemed to expect that Jin would have to make a living just to support his brothel visits, and in the remaining time she would be sleeping with all and sundry! And the Jin-Fuu shipper in me was more than a little annoyed with her for insisting on sleeping with him, even when he had so gallantly offered that there was no need to!

As for the Jin-Fuu relationship after that event I agree that her reactions to his involvement with Shino were very telling. Jin most definitely becomes more concerned about her and the way she 'relies' on him after that was bound to soften his heart in her favour. (The way she runs to hide behind him in ep 13, after she has extricated herself from that fishing net is so cute!) Had Fuu been a little older during the series they might have explored the possibility of romance with either Jin or Mugen. Had it been Mugen, it would have ruined things for me, so I am relieved the way the series ended. It leaves scope for fans to use their imagination, and my imagination is heavily biased towards Jin-Fuu!

It is great to see you are making an effort to keep this community alive! Sometimes years go by and there are no posts.

Cheers,
seven samcham
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[User Picture]From: samcham7
2010-05-23 03:15 pm (UTC)

Re: your question

Sorry about the typo - it should be 'I agree with what you say', rather than 'It agree with what you say'! :D
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